This Week in Conspiracy 9/11/11

I wouldn’t have thought ten years ago that I would be doing what I’m doing now, blogging the strange ins and outs (mostly outs) of the conspiracist mind. If you haven’t heard, it’s been a decade since the World Trade Center attack. The country has not yet fully recovered from that incomprehensible day. I remember groping for some semblance of a narrative to explain what was unfolding in front of my eyes, and I clearly remember the sense of watching the second tower collapsing with a sense of the unreal.

Eventually that narrative emerged, but there are, as always, holdouts against reality, and to these people I now turn. There may be some old stuff in here. The deluge of 9/11 conspiracist stuff I’ve gotten on Twitter this week includes a lot of rehashed, long debunked stuff, especially youtube videos.

  • Who controlled the planes?
  • Wow. I found something worse than Rebecca Black. It was through David Icke’s site. This greasy cheese-eating troll and his bopping idiot consort better never meet a family member or they’re going to get disemboweled:

And that’s all. We’ll have double dose next week, as there is a lot of stuff I could not get to, like, all the non-9/11 conspiracy theories.

Update: A few weeks ago the archive.org put up a collection of 9/11 related news from the day of the attacks and other materials. I am told (below) that it is a woo-free zone.

RJB

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13 Responses to This Week in Conspiracy 9/11/11

  1. http://www.archive.org/details/911 is a nice site docuemnting a good chuck of the news footage of the week of 9/11/01. Worth a link.

  2. Pacal says:

    I watched only some of the coverage of the 9/11 anniversary. Thankfully it was free of “Truther” disinformation. I remembered what I was doing that day and frankly it is amazing just how vivid my memories were. The worst was recalling how I felt when I saw the South and later North Towers collapse. I recall the terrible soul crushing experience of realizing that I am watching thousands of people die. So yesterday I did something I rarely do I cried for those that were lost and those that were and still are bereaved.

  3. Bob says:

    Updated. Thanks, folks!

    RJB

  4. Chad says:

    Jet fuel burns at a maximum temperature of 500- 599 degrees F. Cremation of human remains occurs at 1400 to 1800 degrees. F. No trace of about half of those that purportedly died in the World Trade Centers has ever been recovered

  5. Bradley A. Skene says:

    Perhaps I’m too morose or pessimistic (too much Saturn), but I always imagined the ultimate source of the mid-April thing was Hitler’s birthday falling on April 20.

  6. Bob says:

    I know, that was completely unexpected. But they somehow think that they are not being antisemitic, which is…very very skillful compartmentalization.

    RJB

  7. Bob says:

    Pacal, I was out of touch, buried in a library archive, when the attack started. I watched the old Today Show coverage two nights ago. That was upsetting. I had not seen it unfold in real time before.

  8. One thing that always fascinates me about the Truthers is how many of them are willing to entertain essentially contradictory ideas i their heads simultaneously. The Rebecca Black video is a really good example. Part of the video implies that the Secret Service was in on the conspiracy and another part implies that the Mossad did it as a false flag operation. The difficulty with reconciling these claims should be obvious.

  9. StarStuff says:

    Allen L. Roland quoted Carl Sagan… so much anger is bubbling within me.

  10. M.Sc. Physics says:

    I just had to comment on the David Chandler video.
    You have got to be kidding that this guy has any formal education in simple physics. I think most high school students would be able to find the error in 30 sec or less.

    First off you do not need a lot of formula to figure out that when earths gravity is 1g and an object is accelerating at 2/3g there must be a force equal to 1/3g braking the objects fall.
    So far so good.

    Now the variation of Newton’s law he is using where forces are equal and opposite applies to objects that are in constant motion (or standstill) and does not have any acceleration. So the mumbling about the bottom structure only supporting 1/3 of the weight is all a bunch of B^&S. This applies to to the period where the top section is falling.
    Now do the math 1 sec before the top section starts falling.
    Here the bottom structure is fully supporting the top section (it is not yet falling) so upwards force is mg = downward force of mg.
    What happened when the top starting falling – the supports started breaking. That is fully explained in the official reports.

    The two things proven in the video are:
    1) The top section is accelerating at 2/3g and hence the bottom structure is supporting by 1/3g to slow down the fall. (correct)
    2) David Chandler has not concept of simple physics. (correct)

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